December 30, 2008
The Betty Foy is ladies mixte frame. Lugged, and Taiwanese produced.
Sam Hillborne is the traditional version.
This bike uses 650b wheels on sizes 48cm & 52cm.
To quote Rivendell on 650B,
"The wheels are 650B. Five years ago, were rare in the U.S., but no more. It's well-supported in this country--it's even trendy--and has a secure future."
Good work Grant.
Check out www.rivbike.com for additional info!
December 22, 2008
Would you ask for a lighter, narrower version of the Neo-Moto? Would a 2.1" version suffice? What if we scraped off 100g from the existing 2.3" Neo? Would you ride it? Would you love it? Would you love me? I hope not, you should love Pacenti Cycle Designs.
That's right, your prayers have been answered. A 2.1" version of the acclaimed Neo-Moto is in the works. MTBR's BEST, just got a little smaller! The Neo was the precedent for 650b knobbies, and won't go down without fight! Pacenti has pushed the production of the Mini-Moto, a 650b x 44 tire, back in favor of the narrower Neo. Quite the line up of tires is emerging!
Meanwhile, Kenda has yet to deliver their 2.3 and 2.1 Nevegal in the 650b format.
Cross you fingers for a Pre-Sea Otter release of the 2.1 Neo!!!
Pictured is the 2.3" Version
So, now, planned/scheduled 650b Knobby tires are as followed:
Pacenti Neo Moto 2.3"
Pacenti Neo Moto 2.1"
Pacenti Quasi Moto 2.0"
Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.2"
IRD/Pana Fire XC Pro 2.1"
Kenda Nevegal 2.3"
Kenda Nevegal 2.1"
WTB Wolverine 2.2"
I think there are enough tire companies onboard to suggest this as a viable wheel size!
Forks? Hello? ...Bueller?
December 02, 2008
The Rivendell Saluki is, and has been, available so sometime now. It also was one of the base insparations for the original Rawland line of bikes: the Sogn and Olaf. The Saluki is available with canti-lever brake posts or traditional caliper style mounting. Grant Petersen is the mastermind at Rivendell. Stop by their website at www.rivbike.com.
As for the Adventure Cyclist, they are an awesome organization AND magazine. www.adventurecyclist.org for more info!
Aaron Teasdale and his son, Silas, grace the cover. Aaron also acts as the Deputy Editor for the Adventure Cyclist publication!
For now, go get lost on your bike!
November 29, 2008
November 22, 2008
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November 17, 2008
We'll try to work on a price guide for your viewing pleasure.
Yes, I PURCHASED these tires to report on them. I bug companies about providing 650B product and once they offer it, I'll do my best to buy it.
- To back-up my interest.
- Provide an informative narrative for the product.
Price is one things but to ask for something, then say I'm not gonna buy because it costs too much is pretty weak. Especialliy when compared wit the 26" or 29" version. Be an educated consumer, and attempt to realize where the money must go for us to have these products.
November 15, 2008
Schwalbe's Racing Ralph is now offered in a 650Bx 2.25.
Claimed weight it 555g, with a folding bead. These tire mounted up great! I will not be able to give a test ride until (possibly) Sunday.
My own Quijano Bike Co custom 650B frame is all finished, painted and built. True Temper OX steed! The RRs are fitted to it currently and this will be my new 650B component tester. Unless, I get another frame....hmm. Perhaps.
I designed and built this frame, so I'm super stoked to get to the trails! The new tires showed up today and I wasn't even expecting them. Too bad I'm photographing a wedding tomorrow, otherwise I'd be attending the local Fat Tire Fest in the Alifia River State Park. Alas, the bike will be on display, but not test riding will be done. Liability reasons.
I will post more soon!
November 13, 2008
November 04, 2008
Lovely colors with matching bar wrap, and the brown leather Brooks brings it home!
Pacenti Quasi Motos in effect!
I am quickly becoming a huge fan of his work. He's a super nice guy, to boot.
Looks like he's built another SS 650B Mtb, with what looks like a custom painted Rock Shox Psylo. Follow the photo's link to more of Renold's YipSan bicycle images.
October 31, 2008
Shawn Force shared this with 650BPalace.
It is his Marin Quad XC, 650B Equipped. It was photographed with Neo-Motos, but his local terrain does not need such an aggressive tread so he has stepped down to the Quasi-Moto.
Forces of Nature Cycling is located in St Joseph, MO. Reach them at (214) 748-3647. They are working at putting together more than a few 650B MTBs.
October 14, 2008
Read it and live it.
We nick-named this the Lizard Bike, because of the saddle. Which I failed to photograph. Vicious has teamed up with Fizik to offer matchin saddles to their killer paint jobs. The saddle on this bike looked like lizard scales! Wicked.
Vicious had American Classics initial run of 650B wheelset. From my understanding both 27.5" bikes were sold in the course of the show, complete. The geared, Ti Mambo Sun was suppose to be Carl's personal bike, much like the Ti Mambo Sun shown at NAHBS but was sold, again...
Some news for the readers:
I currently have 2 650B MTB Projects in the mix one Aluminum with kick ass sliders from Ahrens MFG, and one steel geared. I will post images and info as I get closer to the finale. A third possibility is in the works with another manufacturer. Lots of content to come!
The folks over at Soma contacted me before Interbike to get some wheels, which I am currently packing for shipment. Soma's prototype B Side has been put through the ringer and they are in need of a new rear wheel. I haven't seen any images of the production BSides, but rumor has i we all will soon.
I updated my Flickr with some images of Interbike. I didn't get around as much as I had liked, but I did manage a few pictures of 650B gear.
Rawland Cycles gradded #1 of Bike Magazines Top Ten of Interbike 2008! Yahoo! Great Folks there at Rawland! Loads of energy for such a quiet booth! Literally, I got goose-bumbs walking into their booth!
September 30, 2008
A while back I DO remember showing this bike on the 650B Palace, but now there is a review out. Due to Interbike ramp-up activities I haven't been able to read last month's Dirt Rag.
This deserves a good read, for sure.
ENGIN IN DIRT RAG
This month's Dirt Rag features a painted clunker rider on the cover and they're giving away a Mongoose Teocali ( not your little bother's gonMoose from Walmart). BUT, the 650B news starts on page 60 with the review of White Bros Fluid 130 inthe 650B specific platform.
If you haven't ridden a nice Oil dampened fork check out this article. White Bros remains the only suspension fork company to offer a true 650B fork. With their modular tooling and US a homebase, things just come easier with less hoops to jump through.
Second, Mountain Bike Action has their write-up on the Lynsky Ti Custom "Level 3" hardtail. The MBA build also incorporates a White Bros fork, this time a 100mm Magic.
Head to you local book store or news stand to pick up November's MBA and Dirt Rag #138.
Or buy your subscription at:
BUY DIRT RAG MAG
September 27, 2008
Sorry for the lack of pictures and words, but my laptop and other electronic equipment was stolen from my room at the Imperial Palace.
I'm pretty bummed about it.
I made it out to demo day, but due to insurance problems I was unable to saddle up.
(again sorry for the lack of enthusiasm)
IRD/Panaracer Fire XC Pro- enroute.
X-Fusion- plans on a 650B to goto prototyping
WTB- Wolverine 650B 2.2 Tire and a rim to match
Pronghorn- (who) A company with a full suspension design that will possibly use all wheel sizes in its line
American Classic- 2 wheelsets were on Vicious Mambo Suns, one SS one geared. I pair were also in the AC booth.
Haro has slated the Sonix VL120 650B for 2010.
Schwalbe's Racing Ralph was on hand, but no production tires, yet.
Kenda also had their 2.1 on display.
I should be getting some RRs and Nevegals soon.
I didn't see the Soma B-Side at the show, but a little bird dropped a note in my Inbox before the show needing some wheels for a production B-Side. More to come on that.
Rawland was at the show with some new products whoch they teased on their website a few days before the show. www.rawlandcycles.com
Working the American Classic booth was super busy! There was a lot of interest in the 650B wheels, and we turn it on to some folks without any knowledge of the format. I had a load of folks looking for me to find out if their bike would be convertible and what not. All in all, less my robbery, it was a great show. I didn't get around to see the show as much as I would have liked, but, hey I was working.
Personally, I have some new projects on the horizon and I will be posting info as things manifest. Keep you head up.
...And when in Vegas keep your TV on and Do Not Disturb sign on your door when not in your room.
September 21, 2008
BUT, here is what I am expecting to see for 650B at this years show:
Wilderness Trail Bikes- Rims, wheels, and the Wolverine tire in a 650B
Vicious Cycles- more steel hardtails with eye catching paint
Schwalbe- Racing Ralph has been confirmed, but consumers will not see them until Feb 09. :(
Kenda- We all know the Nevegal is in the works, supply on them is low, but they will be on ODD bikes.
Haro- The Beasley will be ridable!
Fuji- completes with some carbon flair.
X-Fusion- teasing us with a 650B "prototype" fork
Soma- The Bside will be an A-side.
GENERIC- Sweet Ti hardtails, Prototype FS frames
Sorry, cats, I let ya out a day early.
Looks like the folks over at Rawland Cycles have introduced yet another 650b frame to their line up. There is no ETA, but the details are:
Fixed gear specific
Disc tabbed lugged Rawland fork.
Pacenti designed geometry.
Additional color choices, light blue, simply orange.
Currently 132.5mm OLD spacing.(edited due to update from Rawland)
3 bottle cage mounts.
September 19, 2008
September 13, 2008
September 05, 2008
We've known for some time that a major change was in store for Turner Suspension Bikes in 2009, but we weren't sure exactly what it would be. While a change to the dw-link has been heavily rumored in forums and the industry alike, it was exactly that: rumors, no confirmation, no denials. But, our curiosity was piqued. When we heard the new bikes would be introduced at Eurobike, we called Delta and booked a ticket. Naturally, Turner was our first stop in Friedrichshafen, and Dave Turner, the company's namesake, braintrust and fearless leader, was kind enough to spend a few moments with us to discuss the new bikes.
You've just made the second major change to your suspension design in four years. What prompted this?
Well, some consider the change from ICT to TNT a major change, and it certainly was an emotionally charged switch, but from the actual riding point of view I don’t consider the switch major at all. With field testing years ago I proved that the ICT did not work any better than TNT, which I had been licensing previously, so I vowed to change nothing in the future that did not actually make a better bike than what I currently had in production. The dw-link just pedals better. The exact relationship of the dw-link in relationship to the rider and frame geometry make for a bike that really accelerates in any terrain and is most apparent as the terrain gets steeper or you’re pedaling harder.
I was attending a fork-makers pre-season product launch on the same day as Dave Weagle, we got talking suspension designs, and he let me take his bike for a ride. We were on rocky terrain and I was anticipating pedal kick back and other bad habits like many other ‘mini link’ bikes exhibit. I was quietly shocked, the bike pedaled up hill almost like a hardtail as far as the rear end not squatting with each pedal stroke. Then when I rode across the many rocky sections the rear suspension would absorb the terrain. Kinda weird actually, to have a frame that felt like it was being held parallel to the ground, not dipping down with each pedal stroke, but would absorb bumps when rolled over. We traded cards and the rest will go down in history as THE major change in suspension for Turner Bikes.
So was it "love at first ride"? Or was it more of an intrigue that spawned a dialog between you and Weagle?
It was not love at first ride, but it was certainly noticeable what the dw-link did.Keep in mind that I was stepping off a 5 Spot to ride an unknown bike that did not handle like my 5 Spot. I had to focus on what the rear end was doing, and not be confused by non-Turner handling. That first ride certainly opened the dialog between Dave and myself. I actually had a dw-link equipped bike or two in the shop for some time, trying them on different trails before I committed to the technology. I really wanted to be sure that I was advancing the ride of my bikes with the dw-link. Truth is that we were selling good working, good handling bikes. And to go through the engineering and tooling effort (and expense) had to be justified with a better ride.
Now that the idea has developed into reality, what characteristic will a current Turner owner notice most about the new design once they have the opportunity to ride one?
When you push firmly on the pedals the bike doesn’t ‘bob’. This ‘bob’ as the bike industry calls it, is the bike squatting in the rear when the bike is pedaled forward. This is the only suspension design I have ever ridden that really feels firm when pedaling and then seems to have the magic ability to be free when hitting rocks and roots and ruts. We are spec’ing the lightest compression valving that Fox will sell, and the bikes feel flat and fast hammering along. This is due to the dw-link creating the support for the rider and chassis. This light valve spec then allows the rear suspension to really follow the trail obstacles.
Something that Turner riders coming from TNT bikes might notice is that the rear suspension is a bit more active under braking. I have to think about the difference in braking between TNT and dw-link, but under some conditions, it is indeed noticeable. After comparing the FSR/ICT licensed rear end with the TNT I appreciated the slight amount of brake energy being fed into the rear suspension as the TNT gave the bike a more stable feel especially on the steeps. Well, the new dw-link falls pretty close to the middle on brake effect on the rear suspension. Having ridden and designed bikes around the three different types, the dw-link creates a rear suspension that gives more control on the steeps than my earlier designs with FSR/ICT but in the high speed chatter the rear wheel follows the ground better than TNT. Splitting hairs I know, but that is how I roll!
And someone that’s riding a Turner for the first time?
Well, it has been said at least a thousand times, Turner Bikes are the best handling bikes our customers have ever ridden. Keep in mind that when a customer gets to the point of considering a Turner Bike they have certainly ridden another brand or three. So, I am sure that the whole bikes handling will impress most right away. If the rider has not ridden a dw-link bike before their first ride, then, as the first miles unfold they will notice that the bike is more responsive under pedaling input. The bike just feels like it wants to fly parallel to the ground as the rider lays down the power. Now someone that is used to a bike that has a great amount of chain torque that is fed into the suspension to lock it out, like many other mini link designs or even high single pivot locations, may want to argue with me by saying that those bikes pedaling-induced lock-out is good “counter bob”. It is my experience that with those types of bikes you can actually feel the rear suspension trying to lift you as you pedal hard, so lifting the rider during every pedal stroke with a bunch of chain torque is not very efficient for going forward, and of course when under power the suspension is rendered mostly useless.
On the other end of the spectrum if they are coming off a low single pivot or an FSR/ICT type bike which are generally accepted to be very active, then the rider will notice immediately that the bike feels like it is floating parallel to the ground with pedaling input having little effect on the rear end squatting under every pedal stroke. As obstacles are hit, the rear end seems to move up and down vertically, more so than arc around the BB area. This is something I noticed right away riding DW’s loaner bike in the rocks of Arizona. I am having a tough time describing this as it is a unique feel to the dw-link, but to me the wheel feels like it is on a track sliding up and down following the ground contours. No, the rear axle does not go perfectly straight up and down, but it does have much more sense of vertical movement. Then, under hard pedaling up through rocks the rear suspension will stay active, and because the whole bike is not squatting under each pedal stroke, the rider can stay more centrally seated and just lay down the power. Sure the steeper it gets the more a rider will have to move forward to keep the front end down, but nothing like on a FSR/ICT or low single pivot bike where the steep grade combined with the pedaling induced squat will have the rider sitting on the seat nose to keep the front of the bike down. When you don’t have to slide as far forward on the seat to counter the chassis squatting, you can put more power down in the seat position (that you spend more time in), because I think it is more efficient due to the fore/aft and height being a place your legs are the most used to.
Standing here looking at the line, the bikes still look like Turners. They appear to still have all the qualities that have come to define your company’s bikes – journal bearings (bushings) to maintain super-high tolerances, zerk fittings to allow for easy maintenance, US production, and massive tire clearance. Did anything else change apart from the suspension?
Well they certainly do look like Turner Bikes, but every one of them started with ground up thinking. Every part and geometry number was thought about before it was applied to the new models. Standover heights were revised, with most getting lower. When the top tubes were being adjusted I redesigned the seat tube gussets so that there is no more weld across the front of the seat tube at the top of the gusset. Due to the very high loads ‘mini’ link bikes see on the lower links we bumped up the pivot size of the dw-link for higher radial and thrust load capacity. We have used grease fittings on every Turner Bike ever produced, but now we have a totally custom proprietary design made out of stainless steel that will thread into all the pivots. These will have a thread lock on them so they will stay in the bike against high pressure grease and with their super low profile shape will not snag rocks or sticks. As you mentioned the tire clearance is huge, but only by other companies' standards. All the models on display have the same tire clearance as their predecessors. The new RFX, which is not ready yet, will have a touch more tire clearance for running 2.5 tires with plenty of mud or bent wheel clearance. Another big change to the line will be the switch to a 30.9mm seat post diameter. This is to make the frames compatible with the lighter weight adjustable posts like the Crank Brothers Joplin. As more and more of these types of posts become available, I know that they will all be offered in the bigger diameter. This did not change the front derailleur though -- it is still a 34.9mm high clamp with top pull cable routing.
It looks like your cable routing has changed as well?
We have run the cables along the down tube for years on the DHR and 4SL race bikes and the Highline. Historically the trail riders were more traditional and we stayed with top tube cable routing, but recently more people wanted the down tube routing on the trail bikes so now all models will be this way.
Do the frames still use the same derailleur hanger?
Same fit and bolt pattern on the derailleur hanger for the last 11 years. In 2008 we updated it with a new alloy and made it 1mm thicker, but it will bolt onto a 1997 and all the XC bikes since then.
For 2009, you've pared the Turner line down to five models from seven. What models/changes might we expect in the near future?
We will make another group of 4SL frames for the slalom and Mountain Cross racers, this I am sure of! If riders get their order in early we will make them for non-sponsored riders as well, it will have the same geometry of the past bikes but have a dw-link rear suspension. Everyone at Turner that has ridden the 650b wheel size loves it, but that is on the back burner until a major fork maker makes a fork that will work safely with that wheel size. Sometimes I think about bringing back the Nitrous, but then I think about how small the XC race market is, at least in the United States.
Fox, Rock Shox, are you listening? And, for what it's worth, we think you should bring the Nitrous back, Dave. It's been the choice for XC racers since its inception.
Naturally, our curiosity is piqued. We're dying to throw a leg over one, but you obviously didn't bring any demos with you here to Eurobike. Will you have some ready for Dirt Demo at Bootleg Canyon September 22?
We will have demos on the dirt in Bootleg Canyon!! We will have the first 3 models -- Flux, Sultan, and 5 Spot -- of the new lineup ready to ride out Outdoor Demo, but the DHR will be show only. The RFX will not be available till spring.
Dave, the line looks awesome! We can hardly wait to throw a leg over them and hit the dirt. When can we expect availability on these five 2009 models?
The Flux, Sultan and 5 Spot will be ready to ship in limited quantities in October. The DHR will be March, and the RFX after that.
SEE THE ORIGINAL PAGE, visit:
So, fork makers....looks like there is now a demand. Buck-up.
September 04, 2008
September 01, 2008
To remind remind readers, I also have a full-suspension 650B conversion from a Haro Sonix VL120 ( with a modified rear triangle). Hands down the Bokor gets WAY more milage than my Haro. I've been a sucker for singlespeeds, as I grew up a bmxer, and my first MTB was a Trek 8500 ss. I built the Trek from scratch as a dedicated SS, and since then I haven't been able to ward off th single speed bug.
Back to the Bokor: Out of the box the Voodoo was setup as a single speed using its sliding dropout feature this was an easy setup. X-Fusion Velvet fork set at a full 130mm travel, TruVativ steering and cranks, American Classic SS QR hubs on Velocity Blunts, THE saddle (my new favorite). I've run both the QuasiMotos and NeoMotos on the rig, in a few flavors. QM front and rear, Neo front, QM rear, Neo front and rear, then Neo front and reverse Neo on the rear.
The sliding dropouts and S-Bent stays allowed for ample room through out the sliding range. Currently I have the QM on the rear, and the chain stay length is at its ultimate minimum: 16.5" I still have gobs of mud clearance. I'm sure I could get the CS length lower, but there is a small design flaw in these sliding dropouts. On the disc side the adapter mount bolt hits the frame at 16.5", limited the length reduction. If I were to run a linear pull brake I could then get a shorter CS length. I wouldn't sacrifice disc brakes for a 5mm less.
The Bokor is a trooper in the muck filled winding trails of Florida. The mentioned stays cleared mudd and transfered power like a champ. I should mention this frame was designed for a 100mm fork, so my choice for suspension wasn't ideal, but it still handled better than my past 29ers. On the Bokor I was constantly swirving around treacherous roots and mud bogs, and not once did I feel like the bike was too long or clumsy. The lightweight aluminum frame didn't kill me with harsh vibrations, perhaps my WTB Original Trail grips helped out with that. I'm also runnign a Titanium seatpost, for both weight reduction and buzz dampening.
So far I've been more than happy with my Bokor 650B conversion. To further test this versatile frame I've added a LX rear dérailleur and swapped the wheels for American Classic geared disc hubs laced to Stan's ZTR 355 650B rims with Sapim CX-Ray spokes. This wheelset is significantly less than the Blunt SS wheels. I've also set them up as tubeless with sealant. I'm excited to test this bike again. The Bokor may also get some commuting miles in with another swap to 700c disc wheels.
August 22, 2008
Readers: IB08 will be HUGE for 650B. Be prepared to be amazed. STAY TUNED!
August 21, 2008
Pacenti Cycle Design shipped a batch to distributor Quality Bicycle Products, and well....they have only 3 left. QBP is also out of Neo Motos, but BTI has over 100 instock for the same dealer price.
Sorry retail folks, QBP and BTI only sell to your local bike shops. Most shops place orders once a week, and delivery time from these to large distributors is pretty darn quick. So, take an hour or two and swing by your bike shop, see what's new, and place your order for some Pacenti 27.5ers.
Speaking of QBP and BTI, both are also stocking White Bros 650B Specific forks. So, now most bike shops will have all you need to get you on a 650B wheeled custom bike. Sycip and most other customer builders welcome business from shops! Quit making excuses.
August 20, 2008
Please don't read too much into this thought. I'm only speculating. But, what if?
IF WTB began to produce one 650B tire, which tread would you prefer?
August 16, 2008
To help things out, Rawland Cycles will continue to sell the Neo-Moto for $50 with free shipping, to help push this platform.
Your favorite components will see the retail price boosts too, so don't get mad at your local bike shop when the new Shimano SLX hits, and it costs more than their anticipated prices, just deal with it.
Interbike is next month and new gear will be shared to the US just after it all debuts at Eurobike.
Watch out here, I've got new 650B goodies to share in the coming weeks. Yes, I have my grubby lil paws on some new product you're bound to love.
August 13, 2008
The Olaf is a single speed specific steel frame boasting dragon head dropouts with an integrated bottle opener. The Oalf is rack ready and rim brake specific. Any color you want, as long as is it's Rawland Red.
The Sogn mimics the Olaf in every way, but is gear ready. Rack compatible, so loaded touring will be a favorite for this rig. Also, there is plenty-o-room for the Pacenti 2.3" Neo-Moto tires.
*The dSogn is a disc only version of the Sogn.
Both models are sold with the Pacenti crowned bi-plane style lugged fork. They also offer a higher headtube than most other bikes, to allow for a stronger, more upright riding position with less headtube spacers to achieve a comfortable ride.
Originally the frames had a planned retail price of $650, but Rawland decided to drop the price to a mere $500. Watch out Surly.
Sean and Anna Virnig are the honchos there at Rawland, and for more info on the duo check out:
August 05, 2008
August 04, 2008
My issue just arrived a few hours ago.
To quote Sarah ( the reveiwer), "It is a truly viable, well-thought-out option for a shorter rider."
This a is a beautiful bike. I called Drew last week to get some tips on fillet brazing, for he is a master, no doubt.
Clikc the image for a link to Engin's flickr page!
August 01, 2008
The Hayes Bicycle Group is recalling 800 SunRinglé hollow quick releases due to reports that the devices can fail or break while in the locked position. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission announced the voluntary recall on Wednesday. Hayes Bicycle Group, SunRinglé’s parent company, has received four reports of the quick release devices breaking unexpectedly while locked, although no injuries have been reported. The recall involves the Hollow CroMo Front 100mm, Hollow CroMo Rear 130mm and Hollow CroMo Rear 135mm models. They were sold individually or with SunRinglé front and rear wheels with model names Black Flag, Disc o Flea, Charger, STR8 Track, Accelerator R3, 00C and Accelerator T3, 0C. Ringlé is stamped on the lever.
Quick release devices with a solid skewer are not included in the recall. The products were manufactured in Taiwan and sold in specialty stores nationwide between June 2007 and May 2008. The Consumer Product Safety Commission advises consumers with the quick releases to bring them to their local bike retailer for a free inspection and replacement. For more information, contact Hayes Bicycle Group at (888) 686-3472 or visit www.hayesbicycle.com
July 30, 2008
Looks like the initial Pre-Orders have been somewhat overwhelming, but those of you who have placed your preoders will be getting them in just a few more days. PCD ships with USPS Priority Mail, so you'll see them quick!
July 29, 2008
July 26, 2008
THE HORROR TAXI
Taken from The Damned song "Nasty", perhaps an aluminum version will be called the Horror Train, or maybe a group of 650B bikes will be dubbed such.
July 25, 2008
I've gotten word that the Quasi-Moto tires from Pacenti have land in CA and are truck bound to Pacenti Cycle Designs headquaters in Tennessee. Currently, Merry Sales in San Fransisco has a batch of them, so if you LBD has access to order from them, your order awaits!
The Rumor Mill has been turning as well.
- Kenda is getting closer for delivery on both sizes of their 650B Nevegal.
- A NEW TIRE is in the works from a totally DIFFERENT Company. Like Pacenti, a smaller company is joining forces to get ya'll rolling on another tread pattern. No, I'm not giving up that secret just yet.
- More Prototype frames are popping up from smaller companies, but 650BPalace.com hasn't gotten any test sleds yet. (I've been lazy) Keep an eye out.
- There is an official complete wheelset will be available in 2009, but the company hasn't OK'd me to release images or names, just yet- stay tuned.
- More 650B conversions have been found and are quickly posted on MTBR as consumers test their 26" steeds.
- 650BPalace.com WiseCrackers are also available for Seatpost crackn and Headset Spacer crackn. Buy Them.
- Quasi Motos should be shipping to your front door NEXT WEEK! That is, if your pre-ordered them.
July 18, 2008
July 04, 2008
"It seemed like a good idea at the time. After all, the only bike I had was a single speed. Why not sign up for the single speed category? 100 miles. Nearly all of it singletrack. The Lumberjack100 is held every June in the heart of the Manistee National Forest and it was only January. Sure, why not single speed? I could get tons of riding in 6 months.
Despite commuting by bike nearly every day (I’m car free) and getting in a few epic rides here and there; the closer it got to race day the more I doubted my readiness for the race. I was beginning to grow desperate for any advantage I could get. I was debating gearing and even swapping out for lighter parts. Signing up for this race was turning me into a real nerd.
When I heard rumors of the 650B Quasi Moto tire and all of its low profile, fast rolling splendor I decided it was just the upgrade I needed to give me a leg up on the competition. So I did what any racer would do and begged for them! Luckily for me Jeremy of 650bpalace.blogspot.com didn’t take much coaxing in order for him to lend me his Quasi Moto prototype tires (a big thanks to Jeremy and his generosity).
The tires arrived a few days before my flight back home to
Two nights prior to the race, the course received a dose of rain in the amount of 10 inches in 6 hours. The storm gave-ith and it took-ith away. Much of the course being rather sandy drained quite well. Well…other than a 300 yard stretch of the trail that was submerged in a foot or so of water and mud that only got deeper and more unrideable as the laps piled up. The storm also downed trees. But in return the storm also made for some uber fast and tacky conditions in other sections of trail. This combination proved to be an excellent testing ground for the tires.
The morning of the race I brought both tires up to 27ish psi and lined up at the starting line for the 2 mile paved roll out. I quickly spun my gear out but managed to catch a wheel and draft into the single track. The moment I hit the singletrack the tires began to shine. With every corner I took the tires asked for more speed into the next. The traction was confidence inspiring and the casing of the tires was plenty supple enough to take the edge off in the rough stuff. I had almost forgotten how much I enjoyed hammering through
The 300 yards of swampy submerged trail was ride-able the first lap with a fair amount of going no where fast with entirely way to much effort. By the third lap it was actually nice to have an excuse to hop off the bike and walk a bit. Coming out of the muddy section was a short, steep, muddy incline where again traction wasn’t an issue. Before I knew it the tires had shed any mud they had collected.
Another section of the course the tires took to was a tightly tree lined sandy downhill single track. The sand was deep enough that I was expecting to be thrown off my line but the tires just floated through and charged ahead.
I can actually say for the application that I used these tires; there is not a single thing I would change about them. It’s nice to be able to ride and race and not notice your equipment for any of the wrong reasons. I was able to just focus on the trail and enjoy the ride.
The race was a blast up until the beginning of the last lap. Note to self: Next year; no apples. I started puking violently for a good solid 15 miles turning the pedals over about as slowly as one could without tipping over. I put on quite the show and even asked a fellow racer, “How do you like them apples?” Then, as suddenly as things went array things got good. It was almost like a light switch went off (or maybe I threw up the rest of my apples) and I started laying absolute science to the pedals. For the last 10 miles of the race I made miracles in the woods. Ok, ok…so maybe it wasn’t that fast but it sure felt like it.
By the end of the race I was hooked on these tires. When I caught my second wind during the last 10 miles these tires pinned it. My efforts were good enough for 6th place in single speed and 27th overall with a time of and change. Both of which exceeded all my expectations for the race and I really like to think these tires aided in my results.
I am eagerly looking forward to the arrival of my own set of Quasi Motos from www.bikelugs.com. It will be interesting to see how they fare on some of the loose and rocky trails here in
Thanks for the words, John.
He also included some race photos. Take a look.
June 25, 2008
June 15, 2008
"650B is the new Black"
Most LBSs order from Quality Bicycle Products they're huge in our industry. If you want some Neo-Motos now goto Rawlandcycles.com, on sale with free shipping.
June 11, 2008
WHITE BROS FORK ON SALE!
Also, the second tire from Pacenti Cycle Design is being relased soon, the Pre-Orders are stacking up and the first batch will likely sell out quick. Get your Pre-Order in ASAP to secure a set of Quasi-Moto 2.0x 650B tires. I'm loving mine, but have sent them off to a racer in Utah for additional dirt time.
QUASI Moto PRE-ORRDERS HERE
May 31, 2008
Alex Rims: soon to deliver the XD-Lite disc specific rim. Eyeletted, 24mm wide, 19mm deep.
American Classic: Testing wheels, currently at prototype level.
Ahrens Bicycles: Added the 650B MTB Mezzo to the their line-up in February 2008.
Carver Bikes: Currently offering the Killer Bee in titanium, custom options available at no extra cost. The Bumble Bee is their 29/650B version, both currently Ti only. Aluminum Killer Bee in the works.
Coconino : another custom builder, showed a 650B rigid MTB at NAHBS 2008.
Engin Cycles: Offered a custom 650B for raffle at Interbike 2007. Drew Guldalian is a customer frame builder in PA. He has a couple 650B MTBs now under his belt since Interbike 2007. Dirt Rag currently testing one of Drew's frames.
Haro Bikes: These guys have been on the ball since 2007. Th
eir Beasley line will be shipping soon. Offered in a single-speed and 1x9. Steel frames with rigid Fat-Chance inspired forks. Also, they dropped their 29er Sonix project in favor of a 650B type Sonix. Very Rad.
Igleheart: Custom builder that displayed raw 650B rigid forks at NAHBS 2008.
Kenda: Showed their 2.2" Nevegal at 2008 Sea Otter, rumored to be also offering it in a smaller size soon, too.
Kent Eriksen: Built Pacenti's Ti hardtail form NAHBS 2007.
Kish Titanium: Added a 650B MTB to their line-up in January 2008.
Origin 8: J&B house brand displayed a 650B aluminum frame with carbon seatstays at Interbike 2008, no more word besides that.
Pacenti Cycle Design: Makers of the first production MTB tires: Neo-Moto 2.3" and the soon to be released Quasi-Moto 2.0". They are also offering custom Steel frames, made in the USA!
Panaracer: Offers 3 townie/rando tires:
- Nifty Swifty- 32.8mm wide
- Col de la Vie- 38mm wide
- Fatty Rumpkin- 40mm wide
Rawland Cycles: Producing a 650B only line-up consisting of the Sogn and Olaf; Steel offroad frames that will attack most terrains with ease!
Rivendell: Has been offing 650B rando bikes for years, and recently began shipping their off-road rigid: The Bombadil. Not enough room for the Neo-Motos, but the Quasi-Motos will fit!
Rock Lobster: Another custom builder with a 650B rollin' around: an old-school cruiser type.
Fox Racing Shox: Their fork line-up fits the 650B Neo-Moto, but Fox doesn't want us to use them.
Soma Fab: Prototype rigid fab'd up by El Camino Fabrication, killer burnt orange paint. They sent it out to Japan for testing, folks in the states are waiting for these to show up in shops.
Shamrock Cycles: One of the first small builders to display a FS 650B utilizing the Ventana 5" rear triangle.
Stan's No Tubes: offering their ZTR355 in 650B. My rims came in weighing 370g each.
Sun Ringle' : This components company offers 2 rims. The CR-18 has been out for a long while, and the Charger Wheelset is available using the Equalizer 27 650B rim.
Sycip: Added the 650B Diesel, can also build their Unleaded in a 650B format.
Vassago Cycles: Currently testing the Rapscallion full suspension 650B. They're still in prototyping, but be on the look-out!
Velocity Rims: Offering the Blunt and Synergy 650B rims, the BLunt is currently the go-to rim for MTB application.
Ventana: Currently shipping 650B FS rear triangles to custom builders. Also, offering the El Bastardo, a 4" or 5" travel Electric Sex welded aluminum FS bike.
Vicious Cycles: Added the Mambo Sun in both geared and SS models for the 2008 season. Debuted at Interbike 2007, now available in Ti or Steel.
Villin Cycleworks: Custom builder displayed 2 650B bikes at NAHBS 2008.
White Brothers: Offering the first 650B Specific Suspension forks
- 650B Magic 80 A/C 464mm - QR or 20mm
- 650B Magic 100 A/C 484mm - QR or 20m
- 650B Fluid 100 A/C 484mm - QR or 20mm
- 650B Fluid 130 A/C 517mm - 20mm axle only
X-Fusion Shox: Offering the Velvet 80-130mm travel fork that accepts the Neo-Moto with ease.
This list will be ever growing, and I've only listed 650B specific components (except for the forks). I'm sure there are loads of custom builders out there, and I'm not trying to discriminate
them, I'm doing my best. Feel free to add custom builders who HAVE already produced a 650B MTB, not those who are planning on building them.
May 17, 2008
May 07, 2008
His lugs and frame build parts have been availsble to anyone who wants to purchase them for years. Now he's added an E-Commerce feature to his website!
Main Page www.bikelugs.com
Goto [URL="http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?intCategoryID=3"]http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?intCategoryID=3[/URL] to see the 650B stuffs he's offering! Gear it up, folks.
May 06, 2008
We are also the aussie Dealer for White industries and On One. We are just down the road from the Velocity factory and will be working with them and White Industries to provide Aussies with 650b wheelsets with Kirks tyres.
Cheers, Stu "
Stu, Thanks for the update! Our AU and Kiwi readers will really appreciate this info!
Mean while, elsewhere:
"You aren’t going to believe this, but we got 1st place in the open class! I haven’t really had time to train for this, for lots of reasons and was only hoping for a top 10-20 finish and on the 2nd lap I was really feeling it on the climbs, by no means am I in top shape right now. In terms of the bike, I have one word to say "awesome"! I am definitely sold on the 650B, and the 100mm came in handy, the descents were steep and rocky and the extra 20mm really made a difference. "
From Rick Caudle
Rick is demoing a 650B MTB, and is now in the market for his own!
May 03, 2008
I have one pair of the tires, and 2 650B (converted) bikes, and 3 set of wheels, so I've kept the Neo-Moto of front and the Quasi on the back. The Neo grabs so nice on corners but I do admit it's weight is a draw back on the rear. I have my Stan's ZTR355 rims laced to American Classic disc hubs with Sapim spokes all built and tires mounted, Tubeless! This is my first personal experience with a tubeless setup. The Quasi is holding air tubeless great. Also, I was able to fit the Quasi-Moto in my Haro Sonix VL120's stock rear swing-arm. I think this tire will open MORE possiblities for 26" conversions.
Speaking of converisons, I also built up a White Industries ENO disc hub on a Velocity Blunt. I have Trek frame I want to put this on, but it has no disc tabs, and the Blunt has no rim area for brakes. Also, I failed to purchase the ENO caliper adapter. (dummy). I plan to Braze some disc tabs onto the Trek ( when I buck up and buy them) , At that point, an old Trek 930, will be a 650B convert too. We'll have to see. Ok, I realize I'm babbling.